Curse

O Blue O · Jul 03, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

I have been playing GW for about 18 months, and I guess you could say I'm (I was*) a bit of a fanatic. My husband is also plays, and has been longer than I.

Having over 20 characters who have completed at least 1 campaign, many have finished 2, and some all 3. My main character has 12 maxed titles, including Legendary Cartographer, Legendary Skillhunter, Legendary Sunspear, and more. I also have a Legendary Lightbringer Elementalist native to Elona, who has finished all 3 campaigns, and 2 Legendary Survivors. (Assassin and Paragon) Thats not all, but it gives an idea of what kind of player I am. (admittedly insane, but that's beside the point)

Now, having given my background.
I would like to express my dissapointment in the recent announcements and changes to those announcements. In the PC Gamer Magazine I was excited about changes being introduced in GW:EN, most particularly I was happy about the level cap being increased for existing level 20 characters. Being able to develop my older characters beyond their current strengths and abilities was the most appealing to me.

Now I have read in the press release that this will not happen. So, not only will GW:EN become the end of GW, leading to GW 2, where my characters will be unable to go. (Hall of monuments...exactly who will care to see it besides me?) All that work, for nothing, for a title? An exclusive "something". Which will undoubtedly suck as much as any other "reward" we have seen.
All that work, all that time, all the promises and changes to those promises.
I wont even go into the fact that the skills that make the game the most fun are constantly "nerfed" due to pvp exploit. (I am a PvE player, exclusively)

Right now what is there to do in GW besides grind more titles? Nothing.

Long before GW 2 is released, the veteran players will go in search of new lands to explore, new stories to experience, and new characters to play with. I'm quite sure WOW and other MMORPG's will be more than happy to absorb the runoff.

Quite frankly, I'm considering running and not looking back. I've gone as far as I can, an officer in a large guild, finished all the content, have all the equipment and armor I want. I've enjoyed my time in GW, but its time to look elsewhere for exciting new content that will not lead to a brick wall and leave nothing to do but grind titles before its done.

I think Anet has cut its own throat, new people will continue to come and play, but those who have been faithful defenders of GW will be (and are) dropping off in droves.

netniwk · Jul 03, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Games can't stay intresting forever,thats the way it is.just take a break and come back with Gw:En.

Coridan · Jul 03, 2007, 06:45 PM // 18:45

I agree a break is what you need. I had GWBURNOUT a couple of months ago...quit playing for like 2 months...and now its interesting again :P

ElinoraNeSangre · Jul 03, 2007, 06:45 PM // 18:45

PC Gamer said that GW2 would raise the level cap, not Eye of the North.

Heck, it makes no sense to raise the level cap here - think about it, now you'd have characters over level 20 who could go back to the past 3 games (with high level content balanced for level 20 chars) and it would completely mess things up. It just doesn't make sense, unless you rebalanced the other games for the higher level cap, thus putting those that don't have Eye of the North at a disadvantage. It's an unrealistic expectation.

And any game, if played a LOT, is going to get you to the same brick wall eventually. If you play and play and play, you'll run out of content. Just like everything else in life.

Rusty Deth · Jul 03, 2007, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Been playing 26 months, still am.

Obviously you played enough GW, everyone comes to that conclusion no matter what game their playing. Why should a MMO be any different.

Also whats your source that "people are dropping off in droves". If its this forum, thats a bit misleading.

Zinger314 · Jul 03, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

OMG, a whiner! Whining is not appreciated on these forums! I vote we tar and feather the OP and burn him at the stake for this heresy!

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Originally Posted by O Blue O

ILong before GW 2 is released, the veteran players will go in search of new lands to explore, new stories to experience, and new characters to play with. I'm quite sure WOW and other MMORPG's will be more than happy to absorb the runoff.

It'll happen much earlier than that. Fallout 3 and Mass Effect will absorb the majority of the RPG lovers (and by the time both of those game are released players will be finished with GW:EN). Even high-profile non-RPG genre games like Halo 3 and Starcraft II will become a focal point for the gaming industry. GW2 will be lost within a swarm.

And at the risk of dragging this good thread off topic with ad hominem attacks...yes, I have already switched to WoW, and am much happier.

Spazzer · Jul 03, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50

Guild Wars 2 will fix the problems introduced that made the game not fun when they created the 4 new professions. That's the bottom line.

FoxBat · Jul 03, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Those are single player games with relatively short lifespans. People will play through them once, enjoy them thoroughly, and have plenty of time leftover to get sucked into an MMO. They aren't competing for the same gamer times at all.

GW2 will be a (financial) success simply because it's still the only AAA fee-free MMOG in town.

Omniclasm · Jul 03, 2007, 06:55 PM // 18:55

Compare it to a Final Fantasy game. Go buy a Final Fantasy game and play through it 20-25 times and see if you get bored of it. 18 months of play, and played through it 20-25 times is well worth the cost of the game.

lennymon · Jul 03, 2007, 06:55 PM // 18:55

They've said GW:EN will have ways for further character development although not levels. Why is this bad? So here's the thing, if it were boring why were you doing it?
Hey Zinger, if yer playing WoW, why are you here still out of curiosity? Is it just to stir the pot?

O Blue O · Jul 03, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Rusty Deth

Also whats your source that "people are dropping off in droves". If its this forum, thats a bit misleading.

Source, as I said I am an officer in a large guild (alliance) and I see lots of people who used to play all the time, playing when WOW has scheduled maintenance. Also, hang out in any major town on WOW Downtime. See for yourself.

I agree I need a break, and I am frustrated.

netniwk · Jul 03, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

And at the risk of dragging this good thread off topic with ad hominem attacks...yes, I have already switched to WoW, and am much happier.

sorry to go offtopic,but seeing someone first whine about the "grind"in Gw and then changing to Wow is the most ironic thing I have read in years.

Mordakai · Jul 03, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

GW2 will be lost within a swarm.

I disagree. GW2 will be more popular than the original Guild Wars, for the very reasons some people here despise the idea of it:

Higher level cap (BTW, not promised in GWEN. Ever.)

New races.

Casual world vs. world PvP.

I think some holier-than-thou types here think that because Guild Wars no longer interests them, it must no longer interest anyone. I'm sure they'll point to less-than-expected GWEN sales to back up this "fact."

I will say right now GWEN will be be lowest selling GW product, simply because:

1) You already have to own a Chapter. So that limits it's customers to about 3 million.

2) Out of those 3 million, many have moved on, or are waiting for GW2. Perfectly reasonable.

But, I also believe current GW numbers and sales of GWEN will have very little to do with the success of GW2. By then, WoW will have gotten a bit stale I suspect. People will want to try something new. And since it has no monthly fee, there is no reason NOT to try it.

Time will tell of course. Who knows, maybe by the time GW2 comes out, even Zinger will pick it up!

O Blue O · Jul 03, 2007, 07:03 PM // 19:03

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Originally Posted by Omniclasm

Compare it to a Final Fantasy game. Go buy a Final Fantasy game and play through it 20-25 times and see if you get bored of it. 18 months of play, and played through it 20-25 times is well worth the cost of the game.

I never said it wasnt worth the time or effort, and I have played FFXI...omg talk about grind...eww. I would just really like to be able to take the character(s) I've worked so hard on, farther.

I am simply dissapointed and frustrated and the forum is...uh...designed to be a place to express opinions and such about the game, soooo...

Shuuda · Jul 03, 2007, 07:07 PM // 19:07

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GW2 will be lost within a swarm.

How the hell can you say, so early on, you don't even know all the details yet.

And on the subject of the OP, All game get boring if you play them as much as you do, take a break, you can play other games without actually quiting althougher.

Omniclasm · Jul 03, 2007, 07:13 PM // 19:13

There is 150 new skills to continue them on further. New places to go, new challenges to overcome. Raising the level cap would screw up the other campaigns, so they can't really do that as such. You can get new armor, new skills, and most likely new weapons.

Just take a break, come back to GW:EN, get your new skills, play with them a little bit, get some new armor, finish the game until you get bored. Grinding to get titles while you do not enjoy it is a waste of time. Some titles are fun yeah, such as protector titles, but the ones that are not fun are pointless to do for several reasons.

90% of the people standing in town won't look and don't care.
The "reward" for GW2 will likely be a holiday hat type thing.
Most have little benefit to your character.

Just do what you enjoy, when you quit enjoying it play something else. That's my theory on it.

ischuros · Jul 03, 2007, 07:14 PM // 19:14

Ok, you say you have over twenty characters, have played the game til death, and are complaining that there is nothing else to do? OMGBBQ

On your other point, why should GW 1 chars be brought into GW 2? It's a different game, and you have the oppurtunity to start over again, something you should cherish and look forward to, discovering a game all over again.

Stop whining, play a different game, and just know when to stop.

O Blue O · Jul 03, 2007, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

~Higher level cap (BTW, not promised in GWEN. Ever.)

~I think some holier-than-though types here think that because Guild Wars no longer interests them, it must no longer interest anyone.

1. Direct quote from PC Gamer Magazine #161 page 028:

"Arenanet's first goal with Eye of the North is to "extend character development beyond level 20", says lead designer James Phinney"

2. it's "Holier than thou" and I never claimed to be holier or better than anyone, whats wrong with stating my opinion? Stop being mean and allow me my moment of frustration, jeez.

Never once did I say it must no longer interest anyone. In fact, I hope that GW 2 is amazing because I loved playing GW 1.

sixdartbart · Jul 03, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

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Originally Posted by O Blue O

All that work, all that time, all the promises and changes to those promises.

So now Anet gets trashed for you getting your facts mixed up even?
GW2 = higher/no level caps. You thinking or even wishing it was something in GWEN does not make a changed promise by Anet.

Sounds to me as if your approach to "playing" a video game is the problem more than anything I read in your rant. It's suppose to be something fun not work.

I still don't understand the people who seem to think anyone owes you a game that you can play forever.

I'm looking at a bookcase full of old video games that I played-finished and sent off to collect dust,Some sucked some were great and all came to an end. GWs has been by far the most amount of play I have received from a single game.

@Zinger Keep in mind that Bethesda is making Fallout 3, GW2 may be out first with their track record for pushing games back.

Hellgate:London coming this summer...

Loviatar · Jul 03, 2007, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

OMG, a whiner! Whining is not appreciated on these forums! I vote we tar and feather the OP and burn him at the stake for this heresy!

coming from the most persistant whiner/complainer on the site

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And at the risk of dragging this good thread off topic with ad hominem attacks...yes, I have already switched to WoW, and am much happier.

and the biggest laughingstock since returning here after his last grand WOW exit mumbling something about not finding a wow server to play on.